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AW Whitley, Co. Donegal, January 1941.

The 23rd January 1941 would see the arrival in Ireland of two lost Royal Air Force Aircraft.  One, Hudson P5123, its story told here, resulted in four safely interned airmen and a damaged aircraft later purchased by the Irish government.

The other arrival brought with it a much more tragic result.

The map below, screen grabbed from Google Maps, shows the general location of the place names mentioned below.  The exact location of the aircraft crash is not known by this writer at this time but it is thought it may be in the area under the text "Glenard townland" on the map, there are two low peaks shown on old ordnance survey maps as Glenard West, 397 foot, and Glenard East, 547 feet.  The term 'Glenard Hill' seems largely to have come into use only in relation to this crash.  The photos of the excavation on the crash site in 1990, see details below, indicate that it was in a wooded area.  Those would appear to be managed forests planted well after the end of the war.

Whitley T4168 Location

A form 765 investigation report was raised and filed by 502 Squadron on this occasion.  Sadly the original file copy in UK National Archives, within Casualty File AIR81/4935, is damaged so the end of the conclusions cannot be read.  The findings of the investigation were summarized as follows in the remarks of the unit commander:

Diagnosis of primary cause of accident or forced landing:
    The navigator was lost, the aircraft ran short of petrol and had to be abandoned by crew.

Diagnosis of secondary cause of accident or forced landing.
    If the aircraft has got seriously off its intended position during a patrol it is entirely dependent on W/T D.F. for homing to its base, particularly in bad weather.  The D.F. facilities at Limavady are unsatisfactory and in this case apparently the aircraft wireless set was serviceable.  The weather conditions were bad.

General remarks:
    It is suggested that a court of inquiry should investigate the crash.  The cause appears to have been inadequate navigation and a failure of the wireless equipment,  The aircraft had been out of sight of land for several hours and in this time, with quite good navigation the aircraft could have been so far out of position on its return that only W/T [illegible]
facilities could ensure a safe return [The remainder of the remarks cannot be read from this copy]

The loss of of this Whitley from 502 Squadron was the first of three losses from the Squadron in 1941 that involved Squadron members ending up in neutral Ireland, the others being the loss of Whitley P5045 on the 11 March and the abandoning of Whitley Z6553 on the 30 April.

Leslie John
            WardF/O Leslie John WARD 41501 was born in April 1918 in New Westminister, British Colombia to Elizabeth and Luke Ward

He joined the RAF on the 6th of Oct 1938, having sailed to the UK it seems in August.

Leslie Ward was posted into 502 Squadron during April 1940 from No 3 Coastal Patrol Flight.  His first operational mission appears to have been on the 17th of May with Sqn/Ldr Corry from RAF Hooten Park where the Squadron had a detachment of Anson aircraft.

His family kindly provided a copy of is memoir of the landing.  In this he recalled:
"About 4 a.m. on the night of 23/24 Jan 41, I was roused from bed by a telephone call-out from the Limavady Ops room.  By standing arrangement, I picked up my co-pilot, Plt Off Johnson, in the old Morris and we made our way to the airfield. Johnnie was also married and lived in digs.  The rest of the crew, navigator Sgt Hogg, two wireless operator/gunners, Sgts Jefferson and Green, were at the airfield on our arrival.  Sgt Hogg was a stand-in as my regular navigator - a pilot officer whose name completely escapes me; we had not been together long - had contracted measles and had been out of action for weeks.  He was a very pleasant and competent chap and had the remarkable record of having completed a bomber tour of 42 trips in 6 weeks.  He went to one or other of the Channel ports in a Fairey Battle to bomb the assembling invasion barges every night over the period.  Now he was lucky to get measles.

    At the Ops room, we were told that three ships had been torpedoed off the west of Ireland – about 15/16º W if I remember aright.  They were fairly far apart and we were to stand by in case a Sunderland flying boat could not take off from Pembroke Dock, as the weather was very bad.  For some 4 hours, we hung about; the trip being on and off, our weather was pretty poor also.  Eventually, the Sunderland was scrubbed and we got away at about 8 a.m.  We flew by dead reckoning navigation to each of the reported positions of the stricken ships, or now of their lifeboats, if any.  The weather was rough; we were flying in the region of a couple of weather fronts with the consequent wind shifts.  We had to fly low to keep under cloud for visual search and this did not aid navigation as we could not make use of W/T MF triangulation for position fixing, for what this facility was worth.  So the accuracy of our navigation had to be very doubtful when the target was a lifeboat or two in a wild ocean.  Anyway, we saw nothing after flying to each of the given positions and back to the first.  We were then faced with a decision: if we returned to base from where we were, we would arrive back with flying time in hand, not a thing to do when there could be seamen in peril and whom we might yet find.  On the other hand, if we searched once more another of the positions, we would have enough fuel, but things would be pretty tight.  We decided to stay with it, continued with the search and then set course for base.  We made landfall on the west coast of Ireland at what we identified as the Aran Islands (Inishmore, Inishmaan and Inisheer) at the entrance to Galway Bay.  This bay is about 53º N and we had aimed at about 55º 30’ N, i.e. Tory Island on the NW tip of Ireland.  So we were some 150 nautical miles adrift – heaven knows where we had been during the day.  There were two courses of action to consider: (1) to ignore Eire’s neutrality and make a beeline for Limavady or Aldergrove; (2) to fly around the coast to Lough Foyle and Limavady.  Course (1) was attractive as it would ease our fuel problem, but we would have to climb above cloud, because of the intervening terrain, and descent at the other end would call for R/T or W/T contact for an accurate let down.  There was none with Limavady, but there was with Aldergrove.  But the decision was made for us, the W/Ops reporting that our wireless equipment was out of action.  So we set off around the coast to Limavady.

 Leslie John
              Ward   Our flight north went smoothly enough, darkness came, but we reached Tory Island, recognised by its lighthouse.  We were practiced in reading the lighthouse coding of flashes and occults as marked on our charts.  From Tory Island, we made our way 35 miles to Inishtrahull lighthouse off Malin Head and then on some 20 miles to Inishowen lighthouse at the mouth of Lough Foyle.  We were very low on fuel, but with only 7 or 8 miles to go, we felt we had made it.  We made a timed run from Inishowen lighthouse but could not pick up the airfield in the weather prevailing and we were very mindful of Ben Twitch, which made searching about low level a dodgy pastime.  We made several runs but with no luck.  I was told later that a destroyer in Lough Foyle had aimed a searchlight at the airfield to guide us, but we did not see that.  With the fuel state desperate, we had been in the air for nearly 11 hours, I had to make a decision and this was to climb to about 4000 ft and head in a south-easterly direction over land for a spell, turn about and bale out.  I had the crew don their parachutes and line up by the escape hatch – a trap door in the floor, forward of and a couple of steps lower than the pilot’s position.  My co-pilot was in the lead with the brief to try and determine that we were over land, then go, with the other three following at once.  After what seemed an age, the bale out was made.  The last man, Sgt Jefferson, was very slow in following on and this, as it happened, saved his life.  With the crew gone, I tried to fit my parachute to my harness; they were of the chest type.  I found that I couldn’t do this and get my arms around it to the control column.  I therefore had to leave my seat and stand in the well, trying to fly the aircraft with one hand at head level and fighting with the parachute fitting with the other.  I was not happy.  At last, I got the parachute on, noted that I was at about 200 ft, knocked the ignition switches off (hindsight says I shouldn’t have done that) rushed to the trap door, got my head and shoulders through and found to my horror that my jacket was caught up on something and out I could not go.  Panic in the first degree.  I backed into the aircraft, rushed back to the cockpit and tried to pull the aircraft out of the dive it was in.  There was no chance standing in the well and heaving at head level.  I saw the aircraft was passing through 1000 ft and then all my panic buttons were pushed and I believe I outstripped anything the Bionic Man or whoever could achieve.  I swear that I dived at that trap door hole from about 6 ft and went through without touching the edges.  I pulled the rip cord at once, saw the ground (snow covered), saw the aircraft go in with hardly a sound (it had about 4000 lb of bombs on board and so the silence was appreciated) had time to note that I was swinging in the parachute like mad from side to side across my line of progress which was backward.  Before I could do anything about anything, I hit the deck and the next ½ hour or so is a mystery to me.

    I awoke to find myself flat on my back with the parachute cords leaving me in a straight line from my chest, between my legs to my parachute 20 ft away.  I recall vividly lying there wondering if I was intact and trying each limb in turn and then sitting up.  All seemed well.  But I saw people in little groups walking towards the bits of my aircraft, mainly the tail unit that was sticking up in the air and lit by fragments that were burning.  The aircraft had plunged into a bog near Buncrana, on the eastern side of Lough Swilly, the fjord west of Lough Foyle.  Hence the silent crash and other blessings.  I made a rapid appreciation of the situation that would have done credit to Field Marshal Montgomery and decided that my best bet was to head on a slightly roundabout path in the direction from which the sightseers were coming to try by some means to establish where I was – mainly on which side of the border I was.  How I was going to know that I have no notion now but it seemed a good idea at the time.  I had made my way a couple of hundred yards when I came to a stream.  Fearlessly, I crossed this despite it being about 6 inches deep.  As I stepped out on the far shore, some 5 ft away I bumped into a man and his young son who had come to see what was cooking.  Politely he said goodnight (you must appreciate that the Irish all make greetings a step ahead – like good morning at night and good afternoon in the morning) and I put to him the question topmost in my mind such as Ulster or Eire.  He said Eire, so I said good night really meaning goodbye.  However, he said not to worry but to follow him and he would see me right.  Rather the converse of take me to your leader.  He took me to a cottage in which there was a woman and a young girl and an open peat fire.  I was offered a chair at a table and a cup of tea and a couple of boiled eggs, if I so wished.  Then people began to arrive, mainly women and children, who said nothing but stared at me, nothing hostile but rather disconcerting.  Very soon a man arrived who sat opposite me at the table silently, whilst covering me with an enormous revolver.  I then realised that the boy I had met at the stream was missing.  The word had been got out.  After a time a very affable police superintendent arrived, told me not to worry, for I would be over the border in the morning.  He had pushed many a drunken sailor over the bridge at Londonderry, he said, when they had lost their way.  I was taken by him under escort to a police station, I believe at Buncrana, where I was again assured that my return over the border was certain.  Soon some Irish Army officers arrived and said they were to take me to the local Army HQ but not to worry, etc., etc.  I cannot recall where the HQ was but think it was in the Lough Swilly Hotel, near Londonderry, but on the Eire side of course.  I was shown to a bedroom and invited to take my rest.  I was very tired and it was now evident that I had done some damage to one knee – can’t remember which one now, and the prospect of a lie down was welcome but the bed linen was filthy – I do not exaggerate when I say it was black.  The clothes were turned back and there was the pit left by the last occupant.  As I was to become accustomed to later, the Irish Army bed sheets were real linen, right enough, but of the weight of sail canvas!  I had just taken off my flying jacket and flying boots and preparing to lie on top of the bed when a Royal Navy Commander was announced.  He was in uniform, but hatless, and wearing a Navy mackintosh which, in those days did not bear badges of rank (nor did those of the RAF) – so was “incognito”.  He had come to find out what we found out in the Atlantic, if anything.  I had nothing for him, of course.  As he left, he told me not to worry about my position as it was certain I would be over the border in the morning.  Later on, I was told by Elizabeth that members of the Squadron had formed a party to dash across the border by car and rescue me, but were having difficulty in finding out where I was from moment to moment and were eventually told not to bother as I was being sent back in the morning.

    The next day, I was told by the Army that there were certain formalities to be gone through before I was returned and we were to go to Army HQ at Athlone.  By this time, I was joined by my wireless operator, Sgt Jefferson, and we set off in a car to Athlone.  There we were told that there was a change and we were to go to Command HQ at The Curragh in Kildare.  So Jefferson and I and our officer escort took lunch and then bundled into the car again and set off.  We arrived at The Curragh in the evening and were taken to the Officers’ Mess where we were met by the Camp Commandant, Colonel McNally.  He was very friendly, told us not to worry – all would be well.  We were fed on sandwiches and drinks and then told that we had better get to our rooms and get some rest.  We were taken about a mile to a hutted camp surrounded by a high barbed wire fence.  The gates were opened, we went in, the gates were shut and locked and we were interned – prisoners.  This we found out when we went into one of the huts to be greeted by a batch of 6 RAF aircrew, who quickly put us in the picture.  Four of them had arrived in the Camp only hours before us and, in fact, crash landed on the shores of Galway Bay at the very time we were sniffing around the Aran Islands as mentioned earlier.  So ended that particular chapter of events and I was not happy."



He was one of the Allied internees that was released on the 18th of October 1943.  He filed an escape and evasion report upon his return to the UK that week.  The reports reads as follows but strangely he is quoted as saying his flight occurred on 24 Nov 1940.  The date of his interview was 20 October 1943 and the file was signed off by the reporting officer on 2 December of that year.  It is possible that the details of the date were confused during that time:

1. Internment
I was captain of a Whitley aircraft which left LIMAVADY on 24 Nov 40 on an operational flight.  Owing to bad visibility and shortage of petrol, we were compelled to bale out in County DERRY in the neighborhood of LOUGH SWILLY.  Three members of the crew were drowned.

The other members of the crew were:-
Sgt. G. V. JEFFERSON, Wireless Operator
P/O. E.I.C. JOHNSON )
Sgt. W. HOGG             )  drowned
Sgt. J GREENWOOD  )
Both JEFFERSON and I were arrested shortly after landing by the local security police.  We were taken to THE CURRAGH Camp on 26 Nov.

2. Attempted escapes
(a)  On 25 Jun 41 I was one of the nine who escaped, but was recaptured.
(b)  In Feb 42 I took part in the mass ladder escape, but did not get over the wire.  I was not in the camp at the time of the mass attempted escape on 3 Aug 42.

For much of the time he was interned in The Curragh he was the highest ranking officer, and was the head of the internees group.

He returned to active service with the RAF and was posted to 102 Squadron in July 1944, where he was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross.  His mission with 102 Squadron was on the 1st August to a target in France but the mission was ordered to be abandoned by the master bomber. The award was published in the London Gazette on the 16 February 1945.

He remained in the RAF post war, being promoted to Squadron Leader in 1947 and lived out his days in the United Kingdom.  He was further promoted to Wing Commander in 1954.  He passed away aged 76 in June 1994 in Shropshire

Edward Ian
            Croucher JOHNSONP/O Edward Ian Croucher JOHNSON 41931 was a young Royal Air Force Pilot, born in Tunbridge Wells in January 1917.  His mothers name is unknown but his father is recorded as an Edward Johnson from Rushfer, Sussex.  A note in the 24 year old officer's casualty file points out that that his father was "not to be informed". 

He had been married only eight short months previously, on June 1st, to Lois Meade Newton from Antrim, the daughter of an RAF officer, Thomas Meade Bertram Newton.  The wedding had taken place in Antrim Parish Church.  The young couple would have to deal with the tragic death of F/Lt T M B Newton of 14 Flying Training School at Cranfield on the 23 October 1940 aged 44.  Lois, his widow, living in Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire in the immediate aftermath of his death.

The officers body was found washed up on the shores of Lough Foyle in the townland of Ballyrattan on the 25th of January 1941.  His death certificate issued by the local registrar records his name as Edward I C Johnstone of Aldergrove, Co Antrim.  P/O Johnson's remains were returned to England and were buried in Rickmansworth (Chorleywood Road) Cemetery.

It was finally in late 2023 that is was discovered that Lois had re-married post war to a gentleman name Ernest De Boos, and that she had lived to the grand age of 101, passing away only in July of 2022.  Ian, as he was referred to by his family, was mentioned in her obituary and had never been forgotten.  Lois and Ian's daughter was born the summer after his death and his grand children and great grand children fondly remember his sacrifice.

James Edgar
          HoggSgt James Edgar HOGG 969800 was the son of Barbara A Hogg from Cheadle Heath, Stockport.  Most wartime records and indeed her own letters to the RAF highlight that James was her adopted son.  The 1939 register finds James and Barbara residing at their home in Stockport.  Barbara was a Public School Headteacher and James is listed as a student, awaiting mobilization from RAF.

He had been born in South Shields on the 8 of July 1918

It is clear from the AIR81 files that Barbara Hogg corresponded with the other members of the crew and the family of Sgt Greenwood.  She wrote to the RAF in March 1943 requesting details of how to contact the two surviving crew members.  A letter of reply dated the 29 April 1943 directed her to write to F/O Ward and Sgt Jefferson at the the Curragh Camp, Co. Kildare, Eire.  She was also given the names of P/O Johnson and Sgt Greenwood.  She also wrote at that time to their former Squadron commander, W/Cdr R Terrance Corry.

Some months later, she forwarded letters of condolence to the families of Sgt Greenwood and P/O Johnson via the Air Ministry.







George Victor JeffersonSgt George Victor JEFFERSON 816145 was the only Allied internee during the war to hail from Northern Ireland.

George was born on the 11 Nov 1920 to George and Margaret Jefferson.  He lived at No. 97 University Avenue in Belfast.  He had enlisted in the RAF in January 1939

He was released in October 1943 along with F/Lt Ward and other internees.  By this time he had been promoted to the rank of Warrant Officer.  It is not known at this time if he returned to operational flying.

He passed away in July 2008 in Belfast.

The daughters of another British internee, Robert Harkell, were able to provide the following group photo of some of the British internees.  The three men standing at the rear of the photo in civilian attire were local civilians.  Those faces that can be identified are believed to be:

In the front row of the photo, from left to right

Sgt Robert George HARKELL 749495
Sgt Norman Vyner TODD 551678
Sgt William BARNETT 973926  
Sgt David SUTHERLAND 51946 

It seems most likely that the tall man standing at the very left of the photo is Sgt Herbert Wain RICKETTS 581473.
The airman with the light coloured hair standing at the middle is Sgt George Victor JEFFERSON 816145
Harkell todd barnett
          Sutherland Ricketts Jefferson

Another photo from the family of internee S J Hobbs included both Denys Welply and Norman Todd. 

It is not known when the image below was taken exactly, but it includes both Sgt Hobbs and F/Lt Proctor so is likely to have been around the time of Sydney Hobbs wedding, though the lady in the photo does not appear to be his wife Joan.  This small and battered photo shows the following Royal Air Force internees:
Standing, Left to Right: Herbert Wain RICKETTS, Denys Welply, David SUTHERLAND, Douglas Victor NEWPORT, Leslie John WARD, Robert George HARKELL, William Allan PROCTOR, George Victor JEFFERSON and Aubrey Richard COVINGTON.
Kneeling, Left to Right: Norman Vyner TODD, Sydney John HOBBS.

RAF Internees



Seeking Photo of LewisSgt Lewis GREENWOOD 553918 was born to Samuel and Mary Agnes Greenwood, of Halifax, Yorkshire in March 1922.  He doesn't appear listed with his parents in the 1939 register and there are no other siblings residing with them.
The Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer of September 2nd, 1941, published a note that Lewis Greenwood (19), R.A.F., only son of Mr and Mrs Greenwood, St Augustine's Terrace, Halifax - had previously been reported missing, but was now officially stated presumed killed.

His name was recorded in the "Calderdale War Dead, A biographical Index of the War Memorials of Calderdale" as: 76 St Augustine's Tee, Hx. Educ Warley Council Sch. Worked for Hellowells,
Delph St Metalworks. Enlisted at 17 No 553918


The wreckage of the stricken bomber had buried itself in the boggy hill side.  And there it lay until some local men undertook to excavate the crash site in September 1990.  This effort is described by John Quinn in his 1999 book, "Down in a Free State".  The dig revealed an engine, a landing gear leg and other pieces of wreckage.  It also revealed an unexploded bomb!  While the Irish Army report from 1941 had stated that all ordnance had been dealt with, one of the aircraft's bombs eluded the Irish Army.  The Irish Army of 1990 had to be called in once again and they made the device safe.  This story made the newspapers in Ireland.

T4168 excavation article

It is not known what became of the excavated wreckage.



Compiled by Dennis Burke, 2019.